Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

At the MAC, where a member of the board was sitting, and which Mr. Watt admitted met more than 40 times a year, there was awareness of this. It is not credible in my eyes or in the eyes of most people to state there were Chinese walls and that Mr. Watt or the Minister was not made aware of anything to do with an overspend. If that is accurate, which is what is being said, there is an issue of dysfunctionality somewhere. I have a couple of questions on this. I have gone through all of the emails from the Department of Health to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. Why did it take so long for the two Departments to meet to discuss the children's hospital? I do not know these people and I am referencing them only to show who was communicating. There was an email from David Moloney to Fiona Duffy at the Department of Health on 20 November, in which he stated Jim Breslin had made him aware of some issues relating to the children's hospital and the budgetary process in October but that this is the first documentation the Department has been provided with. In fairness, Mr. Watt said that earlier. What does not add up to me is Mr. Watt said he found out on 19 November but the Minister found out on 9 November.