Mr. David O'Brien:

That was around 2012, but I cannot say for sure. It was very informal with the HSE at that point on how it would be managed. The site had not been selected then. Shortly after the board was appointed in August 2013, an informal approach was made on the suggestion of Mr. Paul Quinn, who was a member of the board. Because of the default position of having to use the lump sum contracts, the procurement subcommittee of the paediatric hospital board contacted us and suggested that it would------