Dr. Róisín O'Shea:

This is such a serious matter that sometimes one has to laugh because otherwise one would cry all day long. I would cry every day I go into a courtroom if I did not have a good sense of humour to keep my head space right.

First, I will tackle the mediation question. I totally agree with Senator Black. There is probably a lot of bad mediation going on. It is probably why Mr. Ó hUallacháin has a fairly negative view of some of the mediation. He could be right. I will give him that.

As for how we fix that, we need the mediation council. Let me put it this way. Senator Black could go out, stick a plaque on the wall and call herself a mediator right now. It is like the wild west. Auctioneers used be in the same space. I am sorry, Deputy Wallace. Was he ever an auctioneer?