Kate O'Connell (Dublin Bay South, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I am sorry to interrupt Mr. McCarthy but I will hone in on something in respect of refurbishment. It is important to say that buildings need maintenance. There is a certain argument out there in this regard. I understand that and there are landlords who use these reasons to get rid of people, but there are also genuine people out there who need to maintain their buildings. I hear from real people who are renting in the real world that sometimes it suits them to move out for a few weeks. People often move back into the same unit because if a genuine landlord is trying to provide genuine high-quality accommodation, the landlord may put in insulation and do the pipes and a tenant with whom he or she has a good relationship may move somewhere for a few weeks while it is being done and then move back. There is almost an argument that refurbishment never has to happen but we know from looking at the history of Dublin city and at the lack of refurbishment in tenements in the Georgian inner city that we had a similar problem generations ago. I would like to note that today.