Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

I asked about confidence earlier. I was referring to confidence in the Department in relation to the 2010 accounts and the 2012 special report. The Thorn report after that repeated some of the failures and shortcomings from the 2010 report. I was asking about confidence in the Department's role regarding this. It is not a disinterested party. There is a lot of money channelled through the Department. It issues codes of governance. It issues circulars to say how things should be done. It would be a great difficulty for me to say that I have confidence in the Department in the context of that sequence of events. It should not have repeated itself. The meeting has heard some additional information. We have not had sight of the 2016, 2017 or 2018 accounts. We are still in trouble on this as a consequence of that.