Mr. John Hannigan:

It is complex, about which there is absolutely no doubt. It is based on a number of elements that must be market related, not market based. In other words, it fluctuates with the market in some shape or form. That does not mean that we need to change the ethos of the organisations to deliver it. What we need is a change to the mechanisms they operate. For example, Circle, Fold and many other AHBs have been in existence for many years and are charities by nature. They want to continue as charities and will do so. A body does not have to be a non-charity to meet the requirements of the new mechanisms to receive funding. What they have to do is change the mindset about how the mechanisms work. It is complex. As Dr. McManus pointed out, we need to work with Departments to influence the right people in the CSO and EUROSTAT to see that some of what has been said does not add up in some cases. There may be other elements that may require to change or be marked differently for the facilitation.