Mr. Marcus Matthews:

We do not have an idea. Regional Internet service providers, ISPs, do not build those networks. Their interactions with them are purely based on requesting quotations for a specific circuit to connect customers in a locality to get connected to the Internet, so to speak. They are not privy to that kind of information.

What the Deputy is getting at is a point that needs to be understood. We have so much capacity in the country, and regional ISPs cannot get access to that at a regulated price. I discuss regulated pricing in the submission and give the cost ranges that regional ISPs are subjected to as compared to a regulated price. They are more than 1000% more than a regulated price. It is completely mad. Part of the smart way to solve Ireland's connectivity gap is to put regulated pricing in a way that regional ISPs can access. Even if one looks at Eircom's regulated price, in theory it is there, but getting access to that by regional ISPs-----