Clare Daly (Dublin Fingal, Independent) | Oireachtas source

That would be great. In particular, I have difficulty with the idea of paying Vantage Resources between €200,000 and €300,000 a month for PULSE maintenance - my God.

On civilianisation, I know the Commissioner is going to tell me that, at last, the Garda has fulfilled what the Garda Inspectorate has asked for in moving the Garda National Technical Bureau to Forensic Science Ireland. This was long flagged but has it not outlived its flagging? Have we not got to the point where other systems that moved to this type of arrangement are looking at bringing this back into Garda control or police control? One of the problems, I am led to believe - again, this comes back to respecting dignity and a code of ethics - is that the staff involved, some of whom have 20 and 30 years' service, are being given their new terms and conditions this week, being told to sign up by 22 February and that they are moving from An Garda Síochána into the civilian side of the organisation. That certainly does not sound like respect and dignity. In addition, it raises questions about the chain of evidence and about highly skilled staff being lost, with their level of training not being replicated under the new system, and with all of this being sold and justified under the guise of civilianisation. While we would like to have civilianisation, we might end up with something more expensive and with a loss of significant expertise, never mind treating staff poorly in the interim.