Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

The point is that the expertise is being bought in from the private sector. We possibly need to have a beefing up of the public sector side in this regard.

I will move on as time is tight. The witnesses talked about penalty clauses on the contracting side. Are there penalty clauses on the side of the contractor or contractors? If so, what are they and how many are there?