Mr. Seamus McCarthy:

I think Mr. O'Brien is referring to events in the past, where decisions were made not to put pension arrangements in place or the matter was overlooked. There is no evidence now. As with some of the other questions that we asked with regard to the two individuals, documentation was not in place. The point of the recommendation was that the university would look at the contracts of employment and the conditions of employment to ensure that, as far as possible, everything was regularised and everybody is clear on the employment conditions.