Bobby Aylward (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I will move on to another matter. The Secretary General has stated that school transport cost €190 million in 2017. Was that value for money?

I want to discuss the surplus. The Secretary General has said that there will be no surplus in 2019. There was one in 2015, according to the report compiled by the Comptroller and Auditor General. To me, the term "surplus" sounds like a profit was made. It is a crying shame to have a surplus and a profit when a couple of hundred children have been omitted from the scheme. It is a pity that money could not be used to bring the children to school rather than have a surplus and profit. Does a surplus mean there was a profit?