Mr. John Dunne:

It does happen, sometimes with extremely serious consequences, but it is not a widespread problem. This is not a question of private sector good and voluntary and public sector bad or vice versa. There is good and bad practice in the private sector and good and bad practice in the voluntary sector. We have to be vigilant. We are required to report such situations but there is never any follow up as to what happened. I am mindful of one issue in respect of which we reported an organisation. To my mind, it was a relatively serious issue, but these incidents can be also one-off. There are thousands of carers going into houses every day. I would not like to be held personally accountable for what every one of them does tomorrow at 11 a.m. In regard to the organisation we reported, when the HSE was drawing up a list of people who would be charged with the most intensive, difficult, challenging cases, that company was on the list. I did wonder about that. I do not have any further insight but what I am saying is factually correct. I am not saying the system is broken. It is a rare situation but it does happen, definitely.