Mr. Peter Smyth:

In terms of the time lag between the start of telephone call and the sending of the text, there is less than 30 minutes. Both are timed. The record sent to the Secretary General was pretty much contemporaneous with the call.

The senior sponsors' meeting earlier in the day, which was part of the dialogue process, resulted in a request for contact with the Minister, which was why the phone call was made. From my perspective, that call was part of the dialogue process. It would have been preferable to have a third party present to record-----