Ms Fíona Ní Chinnéide:

I echo everything that Ms Malone stated. It is about implementation of existing policy. We have the 2013 Oireachtas committee report on penal reform, the 2018 report on penal reform and sentencing by this committee and also the strategic review of penal policy. If resources were put into the implementation of recommendations around what will work, arrived at through engaged dialogue, we would already be ahead.