Ms Mary Hurley:

There will always be people moving out of HAP into social housing because the transfer list will always work. What needs to be taken account of is there are 71,000 households on waiting lists. That has reduced from 92,000 in 2016. Of those 71,000 families on housing lists, Rebuilding Ireland has a plan to deliver 50,000 built, acquired and leased homes and separately 87,000 housing supports through HAP. What the Government and officials are saying at committee is we will see housing support numbers drop annually from next year. The target is 16,600 as opposed to 17,000 this year. We will see supply by way of building. From 2021 we will see the State deliver build acquisition and leasing homes to the order of 12,000 on an annual basis.