Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 29 November 2018

Public Accounts Committee

2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Chapter 11 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 12 - JobPath Employment Activation Service
Chapter 13 - Actuarial Review of Social Insurance Fund
Chapter 14 - Overpayments of Age-Related Jobseeker's Allowance
Chapter 20 - PRSI Contributions by the Self-Employed
2017 Social Insurance Fund

9:00 am

Photo of Seán FlemingSeán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

The officials understand my point. There was a gap of €56 million in 2013, when overpayments of €127 million were made and overpayments of €71 million were recovered. Last year, the Department overpaid €110 million and recovered €81 million. The gap has reduced considerably. Progress is being made. I am not here to knock it; progress is being made. Overpayments are not increasing and the recovery of previous overpayments is improving. That is to be recommended.

We referred in our latest periodic report to the writing off of small amounts of less than €100. According to a chart on page 25, some €501 million of outstanding debt - presumably from overpayments - was due to the Department at the end of last year. More than 30% of that is pre-2010 debt and is, therefore, more than eight years old, and another 36% of it is debt that was accumulated between 2010 and 2014. The majority of this debt is historic. What are the chances of the Department collecting that historic debt, especially the pre-2010 debt? Will these figures sit on the chart year after year? Is the Department making much progress on the old stuff?

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