Ms Eileen Gleeson:

First, like Deputy Ó Broin, I would prefer to be here discussing policy rather than numbers. We work on the front line. We work with real people who unfortunately face crises on a daily basis. We work very hard in the Dublin Regional Homeless Executive, DRHE, to respond to them in whatever way we can with the mechanisms we have at our disposal. To answer the Deputy's straight question, I would still consider these people to be still homeless because they are accessing homeless services. They are not counted as they would be if they were in emergency accommodation for the purpose of our monthly report because they are, as the Deputy said, in a hybrid situation in terms of homeless accommodation. They are not in the normal form of emergency accommodation but they are accessing homeless services. We are constantly putting innovative responses in place to deal with the tragedies that the people who present to us face every day of the week. We went after the own-door accommodation to give people a more secure situation. We ensured that people who are particularly vulnerable were put into that accommodation because it is a much better solution. Own-door accommodation allows people to control their lives more, look after their own families better and so on. We jumped at the chance to do it and we will continue to do it where possible. However, the people we are talking about are still in homeless services until such time as we can give them a tenancy and move them to a long-term solution. They are not counted on PASS in the monthly report for the purpose of that specific report. Is that clear enough?