Mr. Ciarán Breen:

I simply said that, between them, they could not establish what the precise causation link is, that it bedevilled the causation argument. We know there is a genetic marker associated with it, so that if one had a particular genetic marker, it might trigger a quiescent narcolepsy condition. How that happened and what triggered it is a matter that is beyond the experts at this stage. In the management of any claim or class of claim, I am obliged, before I commit the State to payment, and by the way, the payments in these cases in terms of overall value will possibly be large, to go through the rigours of establishing if there is a liability or a causative link. Let us say, for example, that I came to the view that there was a causative link, in the ordinary course of events-----