Mr. Ciarán Breen:

As part of the management of these cases, I went to a conference held in Brussels last year by all the world experts, who created a couple of workshops on the day and who were considering whether there is an established pharmaco-vigilance type causal link between the administration of the vaccine and the development of the condition. At that conference nobody could prove what that causal link, if any, was. They said it was very complex and not amenable to an answer. That is factually my position on liability and causation in these cases. I think-----