Stephen Donnelly (Wicklow, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I am not looking for ifs. I am asking Mr. Mulvany, as the chief financial officer, and Mr. Desmond, as one of the senior officials in the Department, if it was their view at the start of the year, in the round and given the risks and complexity, that they would come in on budget in each of the past five years.