Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

I am not trying to be argumentative but I do not know the detail of the example the Senator has given. He has now given an example and I can check it. Sometimes parties' views as to what savings can be made and how and what needs to be done to achieve those savings can differ. I am certainly happy to look into the matter because, obviously, if there are real opportunities to make savings, particularly those that actually take out cost in order that we can apply it somewhere else, we would be very anxious to be aware of them. However, it may not be as straightforward as one party saying it offered savings and the other party just not making a decision. That is not always the case when one digs into the matter. However, I am happy to have a look at the matter.