Bobby Aylward (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

On the institutions under our control that have been mentioned such as those in Limerick, Cork and Waterford, as well as the institutions in counties Kildare and Wicklow, representatives of have appeared before the committee, and where the big faults were found in the system, were the institutes out of control in ignoring the rules and regulations in place and in terms of the powers to control them? Somebody has to say why these things happen, without interference. Were the institutions out of control? Were they self-governed? Were they ignoring all of the rules and regulations in place? Is this to try to bring them to heel?