Dr. Graham Love:

I will elaborate on it but also try to be succinct. I am probably a bit blunt here but I think that is helpful to the committee. It is hard to put an exact percentage on it, but I think I have spent more than 70% of my time in this space since I joined a year and a half ago. While I understand that oversight and governance would be a part of the role, I did not think it would be on such a vast scale. It is partly because a significant number of issues were coming forward, but also because of all the other issues we have been discussing here today, namely, that the machinery, the architecture and so on are not suitable to take care of some of the issues.

Also, something we have not discussed enough here today is the responsibility that lies with the governing bodies of the institutions themselves to manage this, which is the bit that we ultimately need to get right. We talked about the HEA legislation that is required for the emergency position or spillover, but we have to get it right at the level of the individual institutions. They need to have this working properly.