Mr. Tim Duggan:

Although that may be so, CE is a matter for the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We are not involved in determining pension arrangements for employees of CE and, as a result, I cannot comment further on the matter because I am not certain of the current policy of that Department.

On the community and voluntary pillar, it is like any employer. If a person is an employee of an organisation, is not in a pension scheme and fits within the parameters set out in the straw man, such person would be auto-enrolled, assuming that those parameters are ultimately adopted by Government and put into law. Obviously, in the same way as with any employer, that would have an impact on the bottom line for the employer, which will have to be considered as part of the continuous consultation. However, the community and voluntary pillar is quite extensively involved in the consultation and is turning up to roadshow events, which is to be welcomed. We expect to hear what it thinks about how the scheme will work for it and its staff.