Mr. Tim Duggan:

The Minister is very keen that members of the public would turn up, she keeps saying that. However the difficulty is that we have not yet found a way to make pensions exciting enough for people to give up part of their day to come along. That has been our experience of pensions over the years no matter what the topic. It is very difficult to get ordinary people to turn up and pay attention to it. We did have some at the Dublin fora which was quite informative because, while industry practitioners and boffins will take a particular line, as Mr. Nicholson said, it is interesting to see how an ordinary person views it and what they will say. We would dearly love people to come to the road shows and if members can use their good offices to get people to do so it would be great. We would be thrilled to see them because we genuinely want to hear what normal people have to say, rather than those with vested interests.