Dr. John Curtis:

On compliance or fines, we will comply with the targets because, ultimately, we will go out and buy allowances elsewhere. That will be one solution. Referring back, however, to Professor Barrett's final comments regarding if we delay, that is a form of delay. It is not an investment in the country's infrastructure to achieve compliance in future years. It is the work of this committee to see how and where investment should be in order that we can decouple. As my colleagues stated, however, there is no evidence of decoupling at this point.