Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I apologise for interrupting again. The population has increased. That is correct and it means we have to increase our spend. The fact is, however, that, in comparison with other OECD countries, our level of expenditure is already fairly sizeable. It is not at the bottom of the scale by a long shot. My question was whether the witnesses can give us some indication as to why our delivery of services to patients is behind that in other countries that spend less. That information would be helpful to us in the course of what we are trying to do.