Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 3 July 2018

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach

Role and Operation of National Development Finance Agency: Discussion

1:30 pm

Photo of John McGuinnessJohn McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

A minute ago Mr. O'Neill told me that the NDFA could not stipulate it to the nth degree. I am asking it to do so. I am also asking the question about the contractor as an example. Can we get back the school furniture that has not been paid for because it has not honoured the contract? It is stated in the contract that it is not its furniture until it pays for it. Are we going to play the role like everyone else plays it, saying it is not our fault, although we overlooked the particular contract and the moral duty we have to make sure everyone does his or her work correctly? Are we just going to turn a blind eye to it and allow it to continue? When does someone like the NDFA cry "stop"? That is the question. It is central to this because it gives the advice and its job is to deliver PPP projects. Its responsibility is procurement and that is where it all has gone wrong. If all of this had been included in the contract at the beginning and it had been bidding on the basis of that contract, the NDFA would not be dealing with this. Mr. Cahillane says it is an industry wide problem. That is not excuse. The State should be leading by example.

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