Michael McGrath (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

The Chairman would, and he would be justified. That would be okay. I have been aware of this issue for some time. I raised it in the past, for example during Deputy Michael Noonan's time as Minister for Finance. The response from the Department and the Minister then and now has been that the EBS is at arm's length and has nothing to do with the Department, and that all commercial and operational decisions are matters for the institution. There does not seem to be any political will to become involved in this dispute. I have an understanding of what the issues are. I ask Mr. Kavanagh to clarify what he thinks would justify redress and engagement from the EBS side. Does he think the treatment of the agents was unjust and unfair? Does he think there were legal breaches of the contract that was in place? How would Mr. Kavanagh characterise that?