Mr. John Saunders:

I wish to be clear. The approved centres are run by the HSE in the main. There are also some independent services. The other unregulated services, that is, community mental health teams, are also run by the HSE. We are not talking about different providers. All mental health care services, with the exception of the independent private sector, are provided by the only statutory authority, that is, the HSE. That is how we work. Many people are using services which the commission cannot regulate forcefully.