Fergus O'Dowd (Louth, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I do not think anybody would agree with that. The integrity of the figures and the witnesses is absolute as far as I am concerned. We should adjourn shortly but I would like to go back to the point about what the next steps should be if we were to have another meeting, because that is hugely important. I note the excellent work the RSA and An Garda Síochána are doing, particularly those advertisements. It is very moving to see families talking about loved ones and little children. It is just not on. The figures must be reduced by at least 30 per annum and it is not happening right now.