Ms Moyagh Murdock:

The people who do not surrender their licences are defiers. They defy road traffic legislation. The law is clear about surrender of one's licence and they have ignored it. The same attitude exists among learner drivers. We introduced legislation making it a penalty point offence to fail to display L-plates. The L-plate means a person will not drive unaccompanied, but it has no effect on people driving with L-plates. They are driving unaccompanied. One sees it everywhere. When one looks out the window and an L-plate driver goes past, that person is invariably unaccompanied. We have to be careful about coming up with some new process to ensure we get every licence back and believing that it will deter these people from driving while disqualified if they surrender their licences. It is not as simple as that. It is a great deal more complex. We need the mobility project to permit instant detection so that culture and attitudes change and defiers believe they will be caught. They will then change their behaviour.