John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Let me put down a marker on this. I would like Mr. Stanley to provide an explanation related to what we can call the First Active cohort. Relative to the case being made by Padraic Kissane, in general terms, and Mr. Stanley's explanation as to why that cohort given their introduction through First Active and how they were set up, the contracts and so on, I ask Mr. Stanley to give us the pointers within the-----