Mr. Tadhg Daly:

What I have said is that there may be some social cases. When the Deputy says "dependency", if she is talking about dementia for example, while a person might not require a hoist, for example, or be confined to bed in her own language, the fact that they have limited cognitive ability might mean they have other dependency, but to the naked eye it may not seem that they are highly dependent.

The other point I would make is that if the Deputy reads our opening statement in the report by the dementia services they made the point that curiously the higher fees are given to the HSE, whereas in fact the private sector would be the majority provider of dementia care, for example.