Jonathan O'Brien (Cork North Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I am not happy with this and I will tell the Chairman why. The issue is not whether Mr. Gleeson was of the understanding the women had been informed or not. The issue was he sat in that chair and said he did not have a conversation with the SCA and he did not tell them that all of the women had been informed. It is not an issue of whether he was of that belief or not. He categorically said he did not speak with the SCA and neither did anyone from CervicalCheck. That is the issue. He cannot now come back and say that he had the conversation, that he told them this, that he was under that belief and that is now resolved. The issue around the HSE and the agency may be resolved in the context of the apparent difference in understanding of whether women were told or not. I do not want to use the word "lie", but we have somebody who came before a committee and who did not give us accurate information and even denied having a conversation, and now we know that not only did he have the conversation, he said what we all knew at that meeting. The other issue I have is that we had the director of communications from the HSE at the same meeting state that he was-----