David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That seems to be different from what I got earlier. I want absolute clarity on this because I have no wish for Mr. Kelly to have to come back in a few weeks' time to give a different response. I realise Mr. Kelly is conferring with someone behind him. My question is clear. Mr. Kelly is certain there are no instances of individuals who were contracted using neither the paper trail to record the hours nor the electronic system. Mr. Kelly is certain of that. Is that correct?