John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

No, it had been made a town council. The commissions were abolished 15 or 20 years ago. They were all made town councils. However, the Vice Chairman is right in that it was originally a town commission. There were five local authorities in Wicklow, which did not make sense. I do not know the population off the top of my head, but I am guessing it is about 140,000. One local authority is a proper governance figure for that population. It is now a question of trying to tweak the changes that were made in 2014. We might need more of a yank to the changes that were made in 2014 to get them to be more responsive, particularly from a town governance point of view.