Mr. Hugh Kane:

I referred earlier to producing a monthly report. The group's initial discourse was based on a consideration of issues, especially when the group was forming. The first three meetings of the group were about trying to clarify its focus and be clear about the approach we were going to take, how we were going to do the work and what our main focus would be. This is an important process given the different stakeholders involved. Writing about that process could mean a two-line report.

On the other work for A Vision for Change we were delayed a bit when we went to do it. We felt it was critical to determining the scope. We have made a quantum leap at this point in so far as we have that work on A Vision for Change nearly completed and we have done an international trawl on outcomes. We have developed a framework that we will be happy to share with the committee. This allows us to start to hang the pieces together.

The consultation process we are engaged in looks at the framework and tries to find out from people what are the most important outcomes to aim for, how should they be grouped and what are the best actions to do that. When we have this information, we will be able to slot in and use much of the information gathered by us and the committee in a way that makes sense to us all.

We were involved in a great deal of thinking and discussion around stuff, and trying to present that when nothing was emerging.