Mr. Dean Sullivan:

I will answer first and Ms O'Connor will give the detail on all of this. It will not matter whether it is CAMHS, or any other specialist mental health service or any other service for health and social care in Ireland, or anywhere else on these islands, or in Europe, there will always be opportunities to do things more efficiently and effectively than they are being done now. It is my understanding today that even if we were offering some perfectly efficient frontier performance it would fall well short of that which is required today. We need to be clear about what is reasonable in the context of available resources and what is beyond what can be delivered.