Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 16 May 2018

Public Accounts Committee

Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)

5:00 pm

Photo of Alan KellyAlan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

Open disclosure? Come on, open disclosure is a joke. I look at the letters that were drafted. Cian made reference to them earlier. There was that awful commentary to the effect that in cases where the woman died, the result should simply be recorded. I think of Irene and what was going on until Vicky blew the lid off it and then she was communicated with. Then they had to tell her. That is what was going on. We can join up the dots here. That is what was going on. Vicky created the environment whereby they had to tell her and they have not even told her everything yet. It is a scandal of the highest order in the history of the State. We can join up the dots. If we look at these documents, we can join them up. I have done out a timeline and we can join it all up.

I have a couple of questions. I am with Stephen and Vicky on this, not because of the individuals involved - I actually know some of these people and some I do not - but because I agree that this is a live issue. We are playing with people's lives. Individuals who have made decisions about people's lives are still in position. Stephen has been very articulate in saying that people who are in position should step aside while the investigation is going on and Dr. Scally is doing his work. Is that something that Vicky agrees with 100%?

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