Ms Vicky Phelan:

I just wanted to answer Shane's question on willingness to change. That is why I am here. Do people think I want to be here? If I do not have a huge amount of time left I certainly do not want to be spending it up here in front of committees. I am here because I want to see change happen, no more than Stephen who should be at home with his two boys. We want to see change happen because we never want to see this happening again. Stephen and I should not know each other, and I do not mean that in a bad way. Look at why we know each other. It is horrible. Stephen and I met for the first time today and it was very difficult for both of us. We have been in touch with each other over the phone but we had not met before today. We are here because we want to see change. I swear to God over my dead body unless I see something happening I will keep at this and it is as simple as that.