Mr. Jim Breslin:

I think the Deputy's view is that in and of itself, as he has described, that is a representation of how things have happened and that also means that there is some dysfunction between the HSE and the Department. I believe during the course of the morning, there has been a lot of reasonable and plausible presentation of the information showing that the core issue of widespread non-disclosure existed within the CervicalCheck programme and was not escalated sufficiently both within the HSE and within the Department. We have talked about the management systems that were working within the HSE at the time. That is a separate question but I cannot blame someone for not passing on something if he or she did not know it.