Mr. Jim Breslin:

I think I did answer this at the previous committee meeting. The knowledge of that was consequent on the Vicky Phelan case. There was no knowledge in the Department of the widespread non-disclosure that has taken place. The first we were aware of it was consequent on the Vicky Phelan case. Then, our awareness of it was only increased and heightened by the information arising from looking at the 208 or 209 cases and trying to identify through the serious incident management-----