Dr. Tony Holohan:

The Department would have been aware from a general briefing from the HSE. I do not at this point remember the precision. That is part of the purpose of the scoping exercise, but I would have had a general awareness of the features of all of our screening programmes. That is not to say every single detail, though. The fact that we were doing a clinical audit in 2016 and that there was knowledge of that was a good thing in retrospect. I say that because, when we look across Europe-----