Clare Daly (Dublin Fingal, Independent) | Oireachtas source

We would also but, unfortunately, the attitude of the Department of Justice and Equality does not always come across to us as adhering to human rights. One gets a better hearing from the Department if one says that if it does not do something it will cost money, rather than appealing to its better nature, of which we have not seen much evidence. The stick can often be better in dealing with the Department of Justice than the moral argument.

Morality has been absolutely absent in our treatment of asylum seekers. I do not think it will change now at the 11th hour.

On the self-employed issue, is it the case that the barrier that is there now of keeping the wage ceiling at €30,000, which is ridiculous, leaves people open to bogus self-employment and to the potential of being employed in jobs that are not minimum wage but are below the minimum wage? Is that the possibility the witnesses are talking about?