Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

We discussed this matter last week in the context of the HSE and open disclosure and we decided we would have both the HSE and the State Claims Agency before the committee to try to make some sense of why we are not seeing open disclosure to the extent that we would expect to see it. I think every one of us will reiterate the point that there is not only a human cost to this, but also a loss of confidence on the part of people who are not directly impacted. There could end up being a healthcare cost due to people avoiding screening, which in turn could result in another cost. If one is talking about saving money, sometimes cutting corners, as opposed to investment, is not the way to do it. It is valid to consider the aspect of outsourcing from an economic perspective because it feeds into the human cost dimension of it.

We received a paper last February from the HSE on open disclosure. There is a contingent liability. That was not in that paper, but there is a contingent liability of-----