Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

On the last five occasions on which these certificates were given out, who gave them out? There is no one attesting in Templemore today.

I will not go over some of the questions because some have been asked forensically. Deputy Wallace earlier went through a lot of my questions on IT tendering, IT systems and IT procurement processes and the issue of IT personnel. I have been through this in the Committee of Public Accounts and I believe it needs an independent investigation to look at what has been going on over the past number of years. The volume of money is absolutely incredible. It is warranted and necessary. It is necessary for the taxpayers of Ireland and also to ensure single points of failure, over-dependence on certain contractors and the processes around that are addressed. I will not go through all of that because Deputy Wallace has asked many of my questions forensically. I want to put on the record that I believe it to be the case and I will not stop until it happens because it is absolutely necessary.

I am glad Mr. Nugent is here. I agree with him that the attendance of a high-ranking civilian in An Garda Síochána is necessary at a committee like this. The issue we raised before and which came up again with the Policing Authority related to Mr. Nugent's statements regarding his investigation of the previous Commissioner's email and I am still confused about it. I will give Mr. Nugent the chance to look back on what was said here at the previous meeting, which he attended, and at the Policing Authority's comments which are available in the transcript. I will ask him to look at both of them and see if there is a contradiction or anything he would like to correct. From what I understand now, the differentiation is on the basis of a couple of words, in other words on language. I understand that Mr. Nugent looked at the emails of the former Commissioner. Is that not correct?