Mr. Damian Duggan:

We were asked what we were doing as regards insurance companies. We have an annual audit and when we renew our insurance, they come in and check everything, from how good our cameras are to the locks and the safes. I moved from one shop 17 years ago to another which had 11.5 mm banded glass in the windows. On the day I moved in a square was cut in the glass to see how deep it was and, that night, the phone lines were cut to see if I had a radio alarm. That is what we are up against. We might think we are ahead of criminals but we are not.