Marc MacSharry (Sligo-Leitrim, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I disagree, respectfully, with that. I think increasingly there is a lot less shivering in one's boots at the fear of the Comptroller and Auditor General giving a note on the audit or of people being called before this committee because of the absence of sanction. I do not necessarily think we need to determine the sanction but there needs to be some fallout. In the private sector, the Garda is called in. If it is the public sector, it is a case of coming in for a superficial meeting of this committee, a theoretical slap on the wrist and on we go to the next year for the next party and ice sculpture. I agree the fear of Deputy Fleming putting an organisation across his knee and saying "do not do that again" is not good enough.