Mr. Ronan Rooney:

I think John Treacy alluded to it earlier, as did David McGill. We must have full-time employees as national children's officers whereas previously that was a volunteer post so one must hire someone for that role. Just as the Chairman has to read his privilege notice at the beginning of the meeting, there is much more bureaucracy associated with governance, including GDPR, data protection and child protection. Soon there will also be vulnerable adult protection. There is much more work with no more funding. The money has to come out of something so the big challenge is redoing the policies, which is relatively straightforward - John Delaney and Sport Ireland have given us a lot of support on that - but hen we must implement them. Doing the policies and changing mindsets is one thing; the hard part is to get all the organisations and their members to understand that it is a culture change, that it is not purely about bureaucracy and that it is about people thinking the right way in terms of social justice and inclusion - and also in terms of compliance - so that there is no need to hit people over the head in order to do what they are supposed to but that they will do it because they know it is the right thing to do. There are a lot of costs and work involved. There are also personnel costs.